📚 node [[ecosocialism and the ecological crisis]]

Ecosocialism and the ecological crisis

A : [[podcast]]

URL : https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/victors-children/ep-22-ecosocialism-and-the-wYZ69c7BjEK/

Good summary of a variety of points related to [[ecosocialism]]. Useful on some detail on [[degrowth]] and [[Green New Deal]] as tendencies within ecosocialism, where they may disagree and where they have overlaps.

  • 00:03:30 Why ecosocialism? Why not just socialism?
  • 00:14:31 Degrowth or not. Nuclear or not.
  • 00:16:08 Degrowth very roughly anarchist, local based approaches. GND roughly more state based. [Really?]
  • 00:18:59 They're not completely separate camps. GND is a tool. Degrowth is an orientation.
  • [[Rosa Luxemburg]], [[André Gorz]], [[non-reformist reforms]]
  • 00:22:49 GND is palpable. You can see changes it is doing.
  • 00:27:09 Lots of camps within degrowth. But for the speaker, degrowth is absolutely not about austerity. It's about [[buen vivir]].
  • 00:29:46 Degrowth was originally an academic movement but it is broadening out.
  • Degrowth would advocate using existing technologies. (Similar to what Medina was suggesting in some sense?)
  • [[Thea Riofrancos]] on [[supply chains]]
  • ~00:49:50 Tie degrowth to a slowing of pace of life plus improvements. It's not austerity. Less flights, but invest in high speed rail. Less work, longer holidays, less need to fly. Etc.
  • ~01:23:38 Problems with [[nuclear energy]]. Storage. Meltdowns. War. Time and budget to deploy!
  • ~01:27:06 [[solar radiation management]]: if we got hooked on it, then something stops it for some reason - rebound effect catastrophical


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