📚 node [[tech_meet_2022 07 22]]
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Participants: me, [[Lion Kimbro]], [[Kartik Agaram]].

== Notes

TechMeet, Lion's Internet Office, 2022-07-21 11:55pm, Seattle time 2022-07-22 6:55am, UTC 2022-07-22 11:55pm, Yekaterinburg, Russia

lines.love

  • trying to mimic a notebook like paper and pencil

Ivan Sutherland, SketchPad

  • Lines

  • Pensieve

  • Linking without Names; Anonymous (not titled, not named) Identifiers

  • an Editor that folds information behind the words

  • APL & BQN -- https://mlochbaum.github.io/BQN/index.html

  • Lion's Project: D&D, Communities, DM dynamics

  • Conversational Spaces in real life and Internet

  • Conversational Tags that anyone can attach or detach to utterances, and that infect replies to ripple through a conversation

  • Preserving Valuable things from conversational spaces w/ ForgiveAndForgetInSoftware

  • Text vs. Speech

  • "Orality" -- such as "The Hacker's Dictionary" (programming = an oral culture) ** It's not about spoken vs. written ** It's more about: History is constantly lost, unless you make an effort

  • ... ** Plato's argument against writing (https://fs.blog/an-old-argument-against-writing): when you write something down, you have only the illusion of understanding it ** just the act of writing something down does something to you ** Feynman and others: if you aren't interacting w/ something written down, you aren't thinking ** we read too much ((cell phones)) https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/reading-ourselves-to-death ** "writing for dead people" *** is anybody going to read this? *** the universe has a way of hitting you down; ephemerality; crumbling sands ** Troika! -- https://www.troikarpg.com/ ** Borges -- "Every moment is immortal, but there are so many of them, you get lost" *** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Library_of_Babel

  • "Is it worth believing in?" or "Do I like it?"

  • "Why is this God so cruel?" "You have to submit, and then it makes sense to you."

  • "We shouldn't believe things just because they are true; We should believe them because they are worth believing."

  • platforms/anti-platform -- over-generalizing from special cases

  • multi-component systems

  • Metronomicon -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAwSoT81qd8

  • "Write down what you think, and let it grow." "If it's written, it happened."

  • Desktop GUI by Web; Creating a Multi-user system this way

  • math notation project: https://us.metamath.org

  • math proof project: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizar_system

Why we write

http://akkartik.name/post/wangs-carpets -- how minds can be both materialistic and souls can yet exist

Hogfather, from Terry Pratchet's discworld, on the relationship between ideals/dreams and matter:

anti-communication - Herbert Brun [[SmolNet]] - [[Fediverse]] - "Commercial Web" - [[IndieWeb]] - (anti-complexity movements)

Fediverse -- network of social networks

Mastodon:

http://akkartik.name/contact

What Kartik thinks of when he thinks of every moment being immortal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b005iHf8Z3g
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