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  • Derrick says that the thing that unties Marxists historically is the [[file:../20210310111947-labor_theory_of_value.org][labor theory of value]]

  • Ezri says that if you hold that socialismis just a form of managed capitalism, then you must think of exploitationin a different way than Marx did

  • Ezri says that dialectical materialismis, broadly, a philosophy of science not just social phenomena

  • Dialecticshave been around since ancient Greek times as a means of argumentation, Hegel#39;s innovation is that he turns it into an ontology

    • Hegel's dialectics only works on ideas because for Hegel ideas are the only things that are real

  • What is unique to capitalism is reinvestment and wage labor i.e. labor as a market

  • The business cycle appears once you get industrial production

  • Derrick remarks that a lot of state activity is the battling between various factions of the bourgeoisie rather than class antagonisms

  • "Communism is the removal of alienationfrom the productive realm"

  • Classical dialectics is about creating definitions from a description or discussion so as to move to axiomatic logic

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