Climate Leviathan with Joel Wainwright and Geoff Mann

A : [[podcast]]

URL : https://www.upstreampodcast.org/conversations

(Hmm, AntennaPod didn't seem to pick up timestamps when I shared for some reason.)

• The political consequences of climate collapse.

• [[Climate Behemoth]] sounds a bit like [[climate sadism]].

• [[Climate Leviathan]] sounds a bit like the Ministry for the Future in [[The Ministry for the Future]].

• Framing it as [[Anthropocene]] suggests that all of humanity is to blame. But it is primarily a specific part of humanity that is to blame - [[capitalism]].

• New form of [[climate denialism]].

• A large number who may seem reformist are not necessarily. They do not oppose radical action. When the wind changes, then they will be happy to participate. Kind of a social [[tipping point]]?

• The [[hegemony of liberalism]] and individualism extinguishes the imagination for collective action and structural change.

• Bigs up [[Andreas Malm]] but critiques some of [[How to Blow Up a Pipeline]].

• Good discussion on problems of [[eco-terrorism]], contrasts with necessity of [[eco-socialist]] organising.

• Acknowledges that sadly [[Social change has never come without violence]]. But we must think how can we bring about change while minimising violence as much as possible. [[When bringing change we must minimise violence]].

• [[Judi Bari]].

• [[The Monkey Wrench Gang]]