# Rethinking infrastructure: the case for social investment URL : https://www.cheerfulpodcast.com/rtbc-episodes/rethinking-infrastructure Publisher : [[Reasons to be Cheerful]] > President [[Joe Biden]] sparked a major debate when he described spending on [[social care]] and [[childcare]] as an investment in infrastructure. We’re exploring why the question of what counts as ‘[[infrastructure]]’ really matters. US policy expert Julie Kashen talks us through the US infrastructure debate then Professor Sue Himmelweit from the Women’s Budget Group explains why it could have far-reaching implications around the world. [[Care work is infrastructure]].